Children on USD? Kids and herbals?
Submitted on Fri, Jul. 25th at 10:56 am by jenniferenny
Currently completed UltraMetabolism week 1 
Not yet begun the UltraSimple Diet 
My daughter is 8 and weighs 126 1/2 pounds (and she's a few inches under five feet). She weighed 124 pounds 2 wks ago when we started the USD as a family. She is stressed because her father and I have each lost about ten pounds (and her older sister is skinny anyway).
She takes vitamins but not herbal supplements because I don't know the proper dose. At 126 pounds can she have the adult dose of herbals to help relieve her built-up stress? I give her a little extra magnesium and vitamin D (1/2 pill daily) and she has and extra vitamin C chewable in addition to her Flinstone chewable. She also has been taking her daily pro-biotic pill for lactose intolerance (chewable otc). She gets virtually no exercise (but we do have a bowflex -I didn't know if she SHOULD use it.) We do try to encourage at least being outside in the sunshine and we practice active relaxation.
I didn't have her detox and haven't had her take saunas, either. We do have free and easy access to a sauna, though.
Her pediatrician recently did bloodwork and all was "normal": thyroid, tryglycerides, sugar, etc. I took her in because I was worried about her thyroid. Hypothyroidism "runs" in our family and I am "borderline" according to my doctor - whatever that means! I know she meets much of the criteria for hypothyroidism but I did not insist on a fuller spectrum panel for her thyroid the way Dr. Hyman suggests.
Her doctor gave her ranitadine for continual upset tummy. She was told to limit breads and sugar but eat lots of fresh fruits and veggies. We got the ultrametabolism book and the UltraSimple Diet. She hasn't lost any weight. She feels "okay" and hasn't complained of belly aches. (I didn't give her all the tests in the beginning) She's constipated a lot, even now. She's still sluggish and tired.
We have educated our children with the scientific info in UltraMetabolism and we've shared the stories there.
I started giving her one flax pill daily but we all have not added flax to our diet in ground seed form (the adults get pills at breakfast and lunch). She has not had the oil and lemon juice. She has not had the detox broth. However, I have put no limit on how many fruits, veggies or nuts she eats. I limit rice, beans, and chicken. I let her have tomatoes, too. She's had no sugar, soda, bread or junkfood. She was seriously upset when her thin 9 yo sister bought a donut while with friends a week ago and she stuck her tongue out and said, "That's okay - I'm going to get skinny and you'll be fat now!" - but when we all weighed-in, her already-thin sister had lost a couple of pounds and she had gained a couple. My husband and I are trying to remain positive for the sake of the children. Our family doesn't normally use the words "fat" or "overweight" or even "heavy" and our kids are schooled at home and we don't have TV - so I have no clue why my 8 yr old is so panicked about how she looks and how much she weighs. To my knowledge, nobody has told her she's fat, although well-meaning older ones have scolded her on her one and only "treat night" for eating "sweets" ( a glutenfree, wheatfree, soyfree cake similar to Dr Hyman's recipe!) I DO know she hasn't felt very well since she started putting on weight two years ago.
I feel so sorry for my little girl and I don't want her to be discouraged going into week three.
Can an 8 year old at this weight apply the USD plan and Ultrametabolism guidelines the same way any adult would?
Should I re-start with her?
Should I put her on an exercise program with the bowflex? or make her do windsprints in the driveway?
Can she have some of the herbals Dr. Hyman recommends? How much?
We adults take milk thistle, ginseng, activated charcoal, extra selenium, extra D, extra C, extra magnesium, fish oil, flaxseed oil, garlic, L-Lysine and cranberry.
She takes multi, C, 1/2magnesium, 1/2D, garlic, L-Lysine, and Cranberry.
(the last two we've given them because my daughters get mouth sores and have had UTIs within the last six months)
Thanks, Jenn in Oregon
My original goal was to ease my three children into a healthy lifestyle by first eliminating all the junk and then adding all the healthy, without ever letting any of them "know" we were on a "diet". But, my daughter keeps asking me if she can have the same pills I have so that she can get skinny. I didn't want her to think I was taking "diet pills" because she knows my mother died after three years of phen-fen. This is a very delicate subject and I feel kind of stupid for asking. What kind of dialogue do I need to have with her and what action do I need to take here? Please Help!

Chidren's diet, supplements, and exercise
Submitted on Sat, Jul. 26th at 10:28 am by mhall24
Not yet begun UltraMetabolism
Not yet begun the UltraSimple Diet
My daughter is 16 and has also struggled with weight issues. I found getting her to control her portions and snacks helped her maintain her weight and then she grew taller and that balanced her out, but she still has to be very careful. As parents we have to be very careful how we help them address this issue, because of the long term attitude they will develope about their bodies.
With that in mind she could do the USD plan, but present it as a way to eliminate food alergens, which could be keeping her inflammed thus holding excess water and weight. I would be cautious about supplements using good multi and calcium is perfectly fine but seek ones made for children instead of spliting them, since some are designed to be time released. I would also suggest purchaseing or renting from the library a good reference for using supplements and herbs for children. I had one when my children were young and used it for everything even bug bites. I wish I still had it to give you the exact name, but it was the one used at health food stores even GNC uses this one for adults, but buy children's format. It gives a range of references from traditional, herbal and alternative treatment options.
As for exercise, using the box flex is fine as long as she keeps the weight low and does reps instead of strength training. If you have a YMCA in your area I found it was an excellent option for my family, and if cost is an issue they do have scholarships which offer varied degrees of assistance. If you are a member some classes are free, but you can participate even if you are not a member in many of the programs. When we homeschooled my children participated in their P.E. class twice a week. Many Y's also have a nutritionist on staff that hold classes and give one to one coaching. My daughter also took dance classes at a local school.
The only other thing I would like to address is for her watch her portion size and always include some protein with her fruit to slow the absorbtion and help her feel full longer. We also confuse hunger with thirst, so have her try a large glass of water before she reaches for that extra snack. She will most likely never be as thin as her sister, I hope she will learn to appreciate that in reality as long as she eats healthy, excercises, and maintains a weight within a resonable range, she is beautiful just as she is. This is the first year that my daughter finally looks at her thighs and does not see huge but shapely, which is true, and she appreciates her excellent hair, eyes, mouth, hands, feet, neck, shoulders, and breast. So what if she does not have washboard abs. How many normal women do?